Google warns “passwords are not only painful to maintain, but are also more prone to phishing and often leaked through data breaches.” And that’s the real issue. “It’s important to use tools that automatically secure your account and protect you from scams,” Google tells users, and that means upgrading account security now.
Google says “we want to move beyond passwords altogether, while keeping sign-ins as easy as possible.” That includes social sign ins, but mainly it means passkeys. “Passkeys are phishing-resistant and can log you in simply with the method you use to unlock your device (like your fingerprint or face ID) — no password required.”
This is just one of their excuses, to keep their users inside google’s walled-garden
How do passkeys keep you inside Google’s walled garden?
more like the garden of weeds is spreading out of control. they want passkeys and oauth so they can become the third-party gatekeeper for everything.
the want them tied to bio because your fingertip or face are harder to share with others, harder to fake, easier to track multiple accounts with, and are tied to real people and identities that can be linked with other data their databases all to make their data and targeted adverts more profitable.
Passkeys have nothing to do with Google. They’re a standard compliant control mechanism designed to replace passwords. http://fidoalliance.org/passkeys/
Google doesn’t do anything with them besides store them exactly like they would your password. You authenticate using your device, which Google knows nothing about. The biometrics do not leave your device. http://www.passkeycentral.org/introduction-to-passkeys/passkey-security
Passkeys do not have to be biometric. You can use 1Password for example and not ever use fingerprints or anything biometric and still use passkeys to log in to services. It’s literally just a different better authentication method than passwords. You can still share passkeys through a password manager.
Literally everything you said is scaremongering and making it easier for scammers to take advantage of people. You should be switching to passkeys immediately.
In lack of further context, and thus conjecturing, maybe as a leash/ransom? “If you walk out of our (Google’s) line, we will kill potentially decades of your history”.
I think OP and several others in this thread just don’t understand what passkeys are replacing, which is passwords. Google doesn’t manage any part of that.
I use passkeys stored iny password manager, and each is locked behind a very long and random password. No biometrics involved.
It’s bad but at least it’s something actually secure, unlike PayPal that dropped passwords in favor of a TOTP sent by SMS.
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I can use my yubikey with PayPal. Although it’s only 1 key allowed at a time. Still some progress
I tried enabling a passkey on one of my Google accounts but couldn’t wrap my brain around it. It felt like if I lost my phone I’d be screwed.
Use a password manager and you’ll only have to set it once. And prevents you from getting screwed by lost devices.
Think of a passkey as a specific “device” getting access to a service.
Device is in quotes here since it’s really tied to the browser and your session on that browser so if you use multiple accounts or you use incognito mode, you will create a new passkey with each session.
You set up a passkey on each “device” you are using Google and then manage those keys through Google’s account security web site, deleting keys as needed.
I’m personally not a fan of passkeys as a replacement for passwords. They provide a second factor but should not be relied upon as the only factor for authentication.
Passkeys are not tied to biometric data, and they don’t do anything to keep you in googles walled garden. They’re a standard supported by most password managers and plenty of websites these days.
Yes, passkeys are more secure but if and when Google is involved, then hell to the fuck no. I’m already moving away from Google anyway, Gmail amongst a few others, are still left.
passkeys are way for a token unlocked by your device’s biometric sensor to validate a request. biometric information is not sent to Google.
The standard is implemented by multiple vendors, Just like HTTP Basic Auth is. It is not Google specific
You don’t have to use biometrics either. You can just use a password manager that manages the passkeys and only login to the pw manager with a pw.
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