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schnurrito ( schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de )  to Technology · 2 days ago

Virginia Enacts Stupid, Completely Unworkable ‘Social Media Time Limit’ Law

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Virginia Enacts Stupid, Completely Unworkable ‘Social Media Time Limit’ Law

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schnurrito ( schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de )  to Technology · 2 days ago
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Lawmakers seem to think they’re capable of solving every perceivable social media problem via legislation. Sometimes, the intents are pure but the execution is lacking. In many more cases …
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  • sleepundertheleaves ( sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub ) 
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    At this point, I’m thinking about the silver lining. If a web of federal and state laws require everybody to prove their identity to some central identity broker, in order to prove they aren’t underage, before creating an account on Facebook or YouTube or TikTok, that’s going to interfere with a lot of spambot and AI garbage.

    It’s a horrible privacy violation, of course. But at this point, with AI chatbots that are indistinguishable from humans, I don’t see how we can effectively restrict account creation to humans without some sort of oracle confirming an online account is an actual human being.

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    Young people criticized Israel and are having their free speech taken away. That’d what’s going on. We must help them get around these fascist laws

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    Techdirt has been killing it since they decided to start covering politics.

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    So this bit here:

    Populate a public list of other users with whom such user shares a social connection within such service or application

    seems like the easiest way to circumvent this law, with the least effort. Just hide connections for users in VA, and now you’re not a social media site. You could even give them their own domain like facebookva.com that only they route through, in case the VA govt try to claim all users on the site have to work the same way. Tie them up for years.

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    The unworkability is a feature, not a bug.

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    We only elect the best here in the USA. Hey, VA, thanks for taking the heat off our idiots here in AR. We are collectively stupid here in the US south. We need a fresh wave of Darwinism down here to wash out the stupid.

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    Worst thing about this is it stops at “non-adults”, and puts the burden in individual services(which would be un-workable, yes) rather than ISPs(which have the means). God forbid we do anything to help society as a whole.

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      Don’t advocate for fashy shit like ISP restrictions

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        Might as well call peak usage rates for electricity “fashy shit”. Excessive social media usage helps no-one. In fact its the opposite, and particularly so for marginalized groups.

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          You k.ow they want to to go after LGBT people and Palestine protestors right? That’s their while thing and they’ve admitted it? Why do you wanna help the evil people?

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            Limitting time is nothing like limitting speech. If I want to write a lengthy post, I can write it off-line, copy-and-paste without wasting quota time or whatever. Same goes for reading lengthy content; Copy/Paste(or print2pdf) and save for later.

            Missing the latest short-form content garbage would be a boon for those who otherwise insist on wasting their time, mental and emotional energy like so.

            • Fluffy Kitty Cat ( fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ) 
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              What? Your logic is insane

              • MachineFab812 ( MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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                The internet was better before ignorant takes like yours showed up. Facebook, tik-tok, and the like invented nothing that wasn’t done better previously. Are you really so addicted to all this Web 2.0 non-sense? Of course you are. Get help.

        • Lime Buzz (fae/she) ( SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ) 
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          Excessive social media usage helps no-one.

          Only commercial social media.

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            Even if they somehow limit time spent on forums, mastodon, whatever, content can be saved for later consumption, and responses composed for later posting. Instant access to the latest tweet or tiktok isn’t helping anyone but advertisers.

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              We aren’t sure how this rebutts what we said. Commercial social media seems to us to be the problem for the most part, open source social media run by real people seems to be a lot healthier from what we have experienced.

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                This place feels like Reddit before it enshittified. I missed those old days.

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                  That’s somewhat depressing if so as I’ve run into so many assholes here. Still, interesting to know.

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                If you read what I wrote, open source social media is also easier to consume and interact with in the manner I described. Usenet, e-mail, IRC, forums, even private messaging and group-chats are both healthier to interact with and less demanding of our time than “services” that bury the content we want to see like facebook and the rest.

                Every single one is still around and in use by the same people who built the internet and others who get more done for themselves and open-source projects than you or I or most of us on Lemmy and the more modern de-federated schemes.

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                  So.why do you want restrictions targeting marginalised groups?

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